ANOTHER Mass Shooting. What's the Answer?

A gunman opened fire this morning near the Empire State Building, the latest in this summer's gun carnage. What do you think the response should be?

Yet another one.

In the most recent mass shooting this morning, police say a gunman opened fire just outside the Empire State Building in New York City just after 9 a.m.

Sources told the New York Daily News a dispute erupted between co-workers at a business in the Empire State Building. They say the shooter casually walked away from the scene; witnesses pointed him out to the police and he was then shot dead by police.

Earlier this month, a lone gunman — an Army veteran and labeled as a white supremacist — allegedly opened fire and killed six people and wounded three others at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. He also was shot and killed by police. Possible involvement by others is still being investigated.

Last month, a lone gunman opened fire in a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, during opening night of the much-anticipated release of The Dark Knight Rises, killing 12 and injuring many others.

American mass shootings seem to have reached unimaginable proportions. What's the solution? Do you think there should be stricter control of guns or should more citizens arm themselves? Tell us in the comments section below.

Jeff Barry August 28, 2012 at 06:07 PM
>> First, people have this idea that they will use a gun competently and >> correctly at a moment's notice, SOME people will have that notion. Most will learn competence. >> using a gun to deter a rape, beating, or robbery does not save a life; Depends on circumstance. In many cases the gun deters without being fired. Deterrence, BTW, means no violence happens. I know from personal experience that bad guys will come after you ONLY if they believe they will not be hurt in return. But if they believe you CAN and WILL hurt them then they will NOT attack. Then a life may well be saved, the life of a would-be victim. >> it prevents a likely rape, beating, or robbery -- good things all, but >> not saving a life. If the bad guy is a lunatic rather than a mere criminal and so presses his attack even when facing a gun then, yes, he may get shot and might even die. In such a case I put rather more value on saving the lives of would-be victims than on the perpetrator's life. >> if you're relying on the Lott numbers for deterrence, those are crap; Gun ownership by peaceful citizens is one of those emotional issues where statistics are bent by almost everyone, so I ignore the numbers and rely instead upon what personal experience has taught me: If you take away the ability of all average citizen to defend themselves then criminals will KNOW their victims will not be able to fight back in any meaningful way. And I *know* where that goes.
dan August 29, 2012 at 09:34 AM
Dave and Jeff Homeowner dodges hatchet, shoots intruder, The News Tribune, Tacoma, Wash. 06/27/12 A homeowner was upstairs in his Tacoma, Wash. house when he heard a suspicious noise and shouted to see if someone was downstairs. A man replied, identifying himself as a police officer, which lured the homeowner downstairs. Once downstairs, the homeowner was confronted by two home invaders, one of whom immediately threw a hatchet at him. The home invader missed, allowing the homeowner time to retrieve a shotgun and shoot one of the criminals. The burglars fled the scene, but the wounded intruder was captured when he sought medical attention at a local hospital. Criminals of the Pacific Northwest beware; the incident marked the second armed citizen shooting in Tacoma in just over a week.
dan August 29, 2012 at 09:43 AM
another story, news media do not cover gun self help stories, like they do on shootings that kill people. A crazed man entered a Smith’s grocery store in Salt Lake City, Utah, purchased a knife, exited the store and began stabbing nearby customers while yelling “you killed my people.” The criminal viciously attacked two patrons before a man with a Right-to-Carry permit arrived on the scene, drew his gun and ordered the attacker to drop the knife. The criminal complied, which allowed other bystanders to subdue the attacker until police could arrive. Salt Lake City Police have hailed the armed citizen as a hero who likely saved lives, with Lt. Brian Purvis noting, “This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time.” An investigation revealed that the knife-wielding man has a lengthy criminal record with convictions for criminal trespass, attempted aggravated assault, attempted aggravated assault on a police officer and sexual battery and lewdness. The attacker’s latest stint in jail occurred less than a week before the rampage, after he was arrested for joyriding and possessing false identification. (The Salt Lake Tribune, Salt Lake City, Utah 04/27/12, KTVX, Salt Lake City, Utah 04/27/12)
dan August 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM
For Dave Chase: http://www.johnlott.org/files/w_post_3-21-03.html
Matt September 05, 2012 at 01:00 AM
A few items to note; -illegally owned guns are by far the vast majority of gun-related crime. -second hand smoke kills a multiple of people more per year than homicide. The answer (in my opinion); -much harsher penalty for illegally owned guns -Licenses being "shall issue" (barring those with criminal or mental limitations) with the State having an appropriate amount of time to run background checks (i.e. 90 days) with a minimum amount of checks to pass. -We should address smoking before addressing gun control. Banning guns isn't the answer. The best example of this is our countries drug problem. Cocaine is illegal yet many people use it and it makes criminals very rich. Ultimately, although smoking kills MANY more people per year, since it's less controversial the media (including AOL's Patch.com) don't get as many "hits" for boring old anti-smoking campaigns. If we really want to save people, we should force the media to talk about cigarettes.


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